Spark/Arc/Streamer - Model (by Terry Fritz) |
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To: wysock@ttr.com, Tesla List <tesla@pupman.com> |
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Subject: Private mail Re: IMPORTANT:
RESEARCH ON WHAT? |
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From: Terry Fritz <terryf@verinet.com> |
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:24:11
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Cc: "Wysock,
William C." <Wysock@courier8.aero.org>,
ken.corum@east.sun.com, jcorum@earthlink.net, rhull@richmond.infi.net |
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At 10:55 PM
11/29/98 +0000, wysock@ttr.com wrote: |
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>The
point being this: If you take a 3-coil |
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>system
(master oscillator consisting of a primary and secondary,) |
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>and
then use that system to dirve the input of a tertiary ("extra") |
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>coil,
and if you look at what is happening to those component's |
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>electrical
behavior on a Smith Chart, you will see that indeed, these |
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>elements
do not act as "lumped-sum" inductances; rather they behave |
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>(in
series) as a slow wave helical resonator (top load capacitance |
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>notwithstanding.) In other words, on a Smith Chart, one can
graph |
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>the
ground connection point (input to the secondary [master |
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>oscillator]
as "zero" on the chart.) If
you look at the output of |
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>this
coil, (transmission line to the extra coil,) you will see that |
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>the
phase has been rotated about such that the output at this point |
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>might
represent about 20-25 degrees of phase shift.
Not 90 degrees. |
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Terry
answers: |
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I would
submit two cautions to this analysis: |
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First, the
Smith chart is meant to study steady state situations only. In |
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the case of
Tesla circuits, the circuits operate under transient response |
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conditions. Many of the fantastic output voltages of
older theories make |
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this error
in that they assumed high Q coils could resonate up to very high |
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voltages
without considering that there was not enough energy available in |
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the primary
system to ever support those high potentials.
A coil my have a |
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high Q but
unless it can be feed with driving power for a substantial |
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length of
time it will never be able to attain significant resonant rise |
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before the
drive circuit runs out of energy.
Typically, the primary energy |
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falls far
short of supporting this effect. |
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The second
problem is that the output arcs present a very substantial load |
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to the
system. In order for a system to have
resonant rise it must have |
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some rather
nice Q value. However, if you load a
system with 220000 ohms |
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(our
present estimate for arc loading) the system Q will drop like a rock. |
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The output
is not simply a secondary (or extra coil in the three coil case) |
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and a
capacitor. The very substantial load
of the arc must also be added |
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to the
system. I use 220k
ohms plus a series 1pF for every foot of arc |
<---- 220k + 13pF for 4m
arclength ! |
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length
capacitor as a "model" of the arc load. Testing with this model of |
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the streamer load has shown to be quite
accurate (amazingly accurate |
<---- streamer = arc ? |
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actually). |
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With the
combined effects of transient behavior and arc loading, I feel |
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that the
effects of Q, resonant rise, and phase shift and other |
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transmission
line effects are lost. The elements
act as simple lumped |
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elements. It is well known that a secondary coil can
be fed with a signal |
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generator
to create standing waves. However, if
you place a 220K ohm |
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resistor
from the output to ground, the resonant rise will be damped and |
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the coil
will act like a simple inductor.
Further more, if you pulse it |
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for the
brief time as a Tesla coil uses, the effects will be suppressed |
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even
more. In transmission lines, there is
significant phase shift of the |
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current
between the base and the top of the line.
If it were a 1/4 wave |
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device it
would be 90 degrees. However, my
direct measurements of |
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operating
coils show no phase shift as I have written (there must be some, |
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but I can't
see below 5 degrees well). Thus the
"trash the 1/4 wave |
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theory"
posts to the list many months ago.
There is phase shift from the |
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top
terminal (toroid) input to the streamers as Greg Leyh and I have shown. |
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It is this phase shift that we use to
calculate the impedance of output |
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streamers. This does affect the top to bottom phase
very slightly but this |
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is due to
loading and not Q effects. The fact that his giant Electrum and |
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my
little coil show the same ~220k ohm real resistance (although very |
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different
capacitance) in the streamers still stuns me. However, many arc |
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physics
experts on the list thinks this is perfectly obvious. I don't |
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understand
all the ions, arc channel, plasma region... stuff but I get what |
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it means to
the output load and I'll trust them. |
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